Adbux

BigKahuna · #1 8th May 2007

Why suggest to boycott adbux?

Increasing min payout (sign of failing revenue and nothing more)

Slow or non-existant payouts and lieing to members about payouts

Decreasing members earnings by a few cents at a time (happened 3 times now my earnings were reduced by 2-3 cents)

Locking members out of adbux

valerie · #2 8th May 2007

To tell you the honest to goodness, I don't know
what to think about them.

I have been paid all payout requests to date.

With that said, I have also been locked out once...
in which they reset my password and stated something
about dns, and hijacker, etc. But I was able to get back in.

My paypal address had changed in my profile to my
subscribed email address and they had sent the last
three payout requests to it. I think they changed my
paypal email address in my profile at the time they
reset my password.

I don't know if they do some of those things deliberately
or if they are just working behind the scenes and create
errors in the process or what.

hockeyboy · #3 13th May 2007

Sounds like owners that don't know what they are doing. But, when that min payout is raised, for sure that is a sign of lack of funds.

valerie · #4 14th May 2007

Not really.

After all, the minimum payout was only $5.

The thing about programs like this, the owners always
have to check carefully that someone is not cheating.
There are very ruthless people out there that do know
how to cheat some systems.

So raising the payout from $5 to $10 is really not much
of a rise considering it does not take long to reach $10.
At the same token, it gives the owner time to double
check those payout requests for legitimacy...or I should
say, not be overly burdened daily checking payout legit.

SAS-Rod · #5 14th May 2007

It also just doubled his "credit limit" with his members.

I have been in the trenches for quite a few years now "discovering" the methods of the cheaters.

Most of the cheating can be thwarted from adequate cheat detection on the server end. If they don't have a system in place to "flag" suspicious activity in real time (the server can sniff out issues a thousand times a second), then I seriously doubt human eyeballs are going to be much more effective.

In this day and age, if a PO still has to sift through raw server logs to detect a cheater, they won't keep up. Sure, viewing raw logs is still the final test but your scripts should flush out most cheating immediately.

He could have simply kept it a $5 minimum with a 1 or 2 per month request limit if it really isn't a money issue.

Then again, it may not be a money issue "yet" but since most of the ads are his own affiliate pages, he better have deep pockets because those affiliates won't be paying for 30 to 60 days and more importantly, hope he is making enough from those affiliates to payout as high as 2¢ per hit.

hockeyboy · #6 15th May 2007

I just joined adbux a week ago

phillygal3 · #7 11th June 2007

i think i will stay away. he probably increased min payout so he could spend more on advertising. i have never seen so many adbux banners in my life, everywhere i go there they are LOL.

cybertongue · #8 11th June 2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by valerie

Not really.

After all, the minimum payout was only $5.

The thing about programs like this, the owners always
have to check carefully that someone is not cheating.
There are very ruthless people out there that do know
how to cheat some systems.

So raising the payout from $5 to $10 is really not much
of a rise considering it does not take long to reach $10.
At the same token, it gives the owner time to double
check those payout requests for legitimacy...or I should
say, not be overly burdened daily checking payout legit.

This is not, and never has been, a valid reason to raise the payout levels.

The thing is, the PO has to check for cheaters regardless of what the cashout level is. Think of it this way - once all of the members with no downlines get to $5, the PO is going to be bogged down with an influx of cashout requests, and will still have to be checking for cheaters. If the cashout level is raised to $10, those members with no downlines will all reach that amount, all at about the same time, and the PO will again be bogged down with cashout requests - and still have to be dealing with cheaters.

This is why raising the cashout level due to time constraints (searching for cheaters, processing ads, fielding member and advertiser email inquiries, etc.) is not a valid or logical solution. There was a time several years ago when that was the popular reasoning used by POs who wanted to raise cashout levels, and people used to fall for that excuse back then. I can't think of a single example of a PO raising cashout levels for lack of time reasons who didn't eventually come back and say that they were behind on cashouts and had a lack of funds. Later, the program would disappear.

So yeah, where going from $5 to $10 cashout in a fast earning program may not seem like that big of a deal now, just wait until the PO starts whining about lack of funds and a growing payout queue, or they simply disappear completely. You'll hear it from the members first, because they're always the first to complain when payments aren't made as quickly as they used to be. Keep an eye on the forums - you'll see it eventually...

oort · #9 12th June 2007

I was paid two times: 5$ of my work and 15$ of my referrals.
The next two months will be crucial because the people without referral will start to reach the payout and then we will see what happens.
Anyway to me this was the best program till now. 20$ in my pocket. I never received so much... LOL

hockeyboy · #10 13th June 2007

The PO actually has a good sence of humour. No point in booycotting. I have been with the program for a very short time and have over $2 already. I just don't wake up at 7am to do all the old and new ads or else I would prolly be near payout already.

horselover · #11 23rd June 2007

I am a current member of Adbux and a mod on the forum. I've not had any problems there and I've been there for a month.

Many people are saying that they've been paid, and they're showing payment proof. You can find this on their forum.

My payment as a mod is a certain number of referrals per week(a $40 value), so the owner is not hurting for money. He currently has 3 mods on the site.

He has also allowed us mods to upgrade our membership to premium at a discounted rate.

The admin is quite active on the forums and is completing payouts almost daily. Those who requested payouts on the 16th and 17th of June received them on June 20th.

So there's really no reason to boycott them.